and the Drum by Shannon Thunderbird
Dear Manataka and Shannon Thunderbird,
My name is Karen Wilson, I am a traditional Ojibwa woman, a mother
and wife. My husband, Chris Wilson, is a member of Michipicoten
First Nation in northwestern Ontario. We have reconnected with the
community and are in the process of relocating there. Our family
believes in living a life of peace and harmony with all of Creation;
calmness within ourselves, harmony within our families and
communities. We have all witnessed dis-ease within our communities,
within our way of life. We have seen disconnection to the orignal
truths and have felt exclusion, arrogance and ignorance.
I was directed to your web page regarding the exclusion of women
from the big drum. Our entire family believe that there are no basis
in tradition for this ban. Our youngest son sits on a big drum for
Michipicoten FN and struggles to find enough boys that want to
believe in and honour the drum. He asked me why young women cannot
drum with the few boys. This has been a topic of family meetings for
many many moons.
Chris and I have been asked by some of the community members to be
'traditional advisors' (for lack of a term) and each day we are
thankful for our teachings and teachers. We are still human and
struggle with some teachings that seem to permeate in a negative. We
are seeking teachers that have pushed past the exclusion and have
enlightened their people with inclusion. Would you be able to direct
us to a community that has insilled and empower the women on the
drum? My goal is to see young boys and girls on our big drum by next
summer at our Gathering. We wish to do this responsibly due to the
engrained notion that women don't belong on the drum. We do not
believe this to the the truth and wish to involve all youth, women,
men and children to pray, honour and respect our Grandmother Drum.
Miigwetch for listening and I look forward to your response. ~Karen
currently Sault Ste Marie, Ontario....soon to be living in
Michipicoten Village, ON
Asparagus: A New Old Cancer Fighter
Wanted to say that I
like the article "Asparagus: A New Old Cancer Fighter" - it has me
really curious, and I will try it. I have lost too many friends,
coworkers, and relatives (animals and humans) to cancer. While I
have no qualms with death (it is a part of life, and I know Death's
realm well), I have mixed feelings about cancer. Death has many
forms, and each person has a mode of transition, but some are worse
than others, for reasons I have never understood. Walking between
worlds helps, but I still grieve in my own way. There are certain
songs that come to me when someone is dying, or is about to cross
over - the songs tell me to help the person make a smooth transition
with my prayers. The old medicine in me likes what I see in
this article - and asparagus is a vegetable that I used to dislike,
and suddenly started liking a few years ago. I like the instructions
given, simple enough - the problem I have with so many medicinal
plant articles is that the instructions are unclear, missing
completely, or are so overwrought with "warning: this may kill
you!!" that HOW to use them safely is obscured. Some day I
hope to have time to find more articles like it on other common
medicinal plants - this time of my life is focused on my family and
work. I continue to dream and work with energy ..... quietly, just
not much time to write about it. Thanks for publishing it. ~
Tired Elder's Vision
My name is Grandmother
on the Hill, a man named Sioux by white buffalo calf woman
Your article on the visions and prophesies they are carbon copy of
my own and so I will tell ahead the answer to one tired elder's
vision that troubled him so deep.
He saw the rocket that turned from the canoe the vehicles we choose
the tree bear marked four times four it is my staff with thirteen
leaves upon its trunk the bear as the spirit of course that talks to
me and the orb is known where it sets it is same I saw when sky was
torn away there upon that pillar with the line attached head of it
I see the silo as well
as the river my relatives i talk with the spirit and have every sign
today tet tet in place we can almost begin the next harmonious
garden if at the natural pace and to add i have the scrolls written
in the halls not seen since then but I have them now the rest as
"Paul Harvey used to say "the rest of the story". Love the
elders ,they see well and have done well they bought your freedom
with faith and they are true, the rocky river is wide but the paddle
is too steer your course by pulling hard on the water and the
current will then be behind you if not you know what it does the
current will guide you not where you want to go
fly free my relatives. In spirit I write you.
~Dana Rene Hoecker aka Grandmother on the Hill
Oglala Does Not Mean....
In the Lakota language…..Teton meant women’s
breast…..:) Please be aware of this! Stop calling yourself
women’s breast Oglala. Someone a very long time ago, with a great
pen obviously wrote “Teton”, to shorten the correct word “Tetowan”.
This is who we are, “those who live in the plains”! We
are NOT women’s breast people. Please get is straight. We
enjoy reading about one of our own and how well you did for
yourself, please keep it up! ~Jacqueline White Bird, MA,
Sinte Gleska University, Mission, SD
Gulpha Gorge at Hot Springs National Park, Arkansas
Hi Everyone at
I lived with my grandparents (father's side) almost from birth until
age 12 1956-1968. Gulpha Gorge was a weekly outdoor event for us.
Continued to make my pilgrimage at least 4 times a year. In the last
eighties-my infant son learned to swim there at the catch pond near
the amphitheater ~Galandi Iyelisdi
Cherokee Calendrics and Time Keeping
I am a tad confused ... is Raven Hail's book on the Cherokee Sacred
Calendar authentic? and based on the 20 day name cycle used by the
Mayans, Aztecs (and probably historically Olmecs & Toltecs); the
naming rite she outlines (midwives advised of the named day of the
child's birth; and in turn advises mother) -- Raven assigns solar
energy to the female, while the male -- Grandfather Moon --
expresses lunar energies. She states that the Cherokee
emigrated from the Yucatan, though academic anthropologists see some
sort of Iroquoian relationship based on language & general
matrilineal structure; R Fogelson (I took a class or two in anthro
with him) says the Cherokee calendrics/ time keeping were lunar
based (full and new moons)
I'm an astrologer and of course absolutely fascinated by the Mayan
calendar -- I have plans for a 10 day Guatemalan tour starting with
the Winter Solstice (end of Days) and am curious how far the
MesoAmerican calendrix influence extended.
Any response will be very much appreciated - Sincerely, ~Sonja Foxe
While we cannot and do not speak for Raven Hail, there are some
merits to her Cherokee Sacred Calendar. We are not aware the
Cherokee had any type of calendar. Long before the Aztecs, Olmecs,
Toltecs and Maya, there were a people known as the Tula. The Tula
were the teachers of the Maya and are ancestors of the Toltec. The
Tula also sent emissaries to North America and they lived at Caddo Gap, AR and they were the Keepers of Manataka
(Hot Springs National Park, AR) for hundreds of years. The Tula
taught the Maya how to calculate the movements of the heavens. Other
secrets taught by the Tula remain at Manataka. Thank you.
Hello. My name is Shannon Santa Ana
and I have an odd question to ask regarding spirit guides. At least it seems odd
to me as I've never really given them much thought before today. I have
always since I was a young child had dreams that come true and I can always tell
the difference between a "real" dream and an ordinary dream. It doesn't happen
often and I've never considered myself psychic because of it but last night I
had one of those dreams. This one was different though.
In my dream an animal came to my door and wanted in. At first I turned it away
because it was a strange little animal that I wouldn't consider an indoor
animal. It was a sloth. I ended up changing my mind and let him in anyway. Once
I did he took on the form of a man. I felt very comfortable with this man and we
began to talk. He brought up several things that has happened in my life but
nothing of any real significance. I asked him how he knew these things and he
said it was because he was my spirit guide. I then asked how long he had been
with me and he said that he's been in my life in many different forms since I
was 6 weeks old.
The back story to this dream was that a horrible storm was moving in and great
flooding was expected. As the dream progressed the storm became worse and worse
but some how I still felt safe although the water was rising and the waves of
the ocean were swelling to great heights ( I live in Petal, Ms. An hour and a
half from the gulf. No where near close enough to have to worry about that kind
of thing). I could feel the spray of the water on my face. As the storm reached
it's height I received a phone call and was woken up so that's where it ended. I
actually had to wipe my face dry when I woke up. The only other time that I had
a physical response from a dream was when my grandfather visited me in dream
I really don't know what to make of it. I have had many changes in my life in
the last year and a half. Divorce, remarried, husband is deployed to Afghanistan
and I'm about to put my daughter through college. I do have a very strong
spiritual belief system but can't help but wonder if I'm making too much out of
this. I've always believed in spirit guides but have never looked into it until
now. When I looked up the meaning of the sloth I was quite shocked. Everything
fit me like a glove. Can you please help advise me on how I should interpret
this dream? I'm very confused about this and want to understand it and how it
relates to my life. It had to strong of an impact on me to just write it off as
a dream and nothing more. Thank you so much for taking the time to read
this. ~Shannon Santa Ana
Hello Shannon, Blessings on this
wonderful day the Creator made for you. Eons before you were born into this
material world, you were spirit. Then, when you were born, you were spirit and
body. Long after your body turns to dust, you will remain spirit. As a human you
are three entities: You are a physical body, a conscious being with a mind and
emotions and you are also spirit. It is natural and common for various spirits
of many kinds to ‘attach’ themselves to a spirit being such as yourself. Do not
make light of it. It is sacred. It is the beginning of your awakening. Be
sensitive and responsive to it. The more you follow spirit, the better your life
becomes. The more you ignore spirit, the worse it becomes. Lee Gadoda Yonv
Smoke Signal News
Hello Manataka Editor,
I have just recently subsribed to your newsletter and am so grateful
to have come upon it. I am wondering if the beautiful print
illustrating the "Happiness is a Voyage" article is available for
purchase. It truly makes my sould sing and a smile to my face.
Many thanks and blessings. ~Jill Kuslits
Smoke Signal News
Thank you so much for
the Smoke Signal News. I am a first generation American, my parents
are from Germany. But I love your Smoke Signal Newsletter. I find it
uplifting and insightful. I especially like the information about
the herbs. They still use a lot of herbal remedies in Europe. I
would much rather take something from the earth to help me than all
the drugs the FDA "says" are ok. ~Sabina Bowers
Smoke Signal News
I enjoyed your newsletter article on prophecy. Much about dreams can
be answered with medieval astrology. See my profile-resident
www.newageshop.com.HK Regards, Gary Price
Grandfather Bear's Vision
Oh My Brother Bear, I
am sitting here filled with the Spirit of your voice echoing through
me as if I had walked with The Father and I to felt like a child
sitting with you, and you have awakened me to an understanding and
clarity for which I was seeking. Your timing is of the essence and I
truly believe in synchronization and how the Powers That Be and the
Universe has a timeline for which "That is of a Divine Nature will
present itself in its own time, when it Benefits the ALL and
Encompasses The Totality of The All". You helped put the pieces
together that were already right in front of me but my life on this
Earth Plane sometimes becomes clouded by what is happening in my
Personal Life and that which surrounds me, but I feel that my Path
has cleared and the only Obstructions that inhibited my growth were
that of my own choices in my life, which placed the Obstacles in my
Wake for which I took complete responsibility for. I have been
releasing that which has no bearing on walking the "Path" with the
Grace of The Holy Spirit Mother so that I can really be free to
"Walk". My first thought when I received your email was, "If I could
right now, at this moment, I would somehow come to The Great
Manataka and sit with My Brother Bear by the Fire..." I felt a great
healing when I professed those words...You have opened my horizons
and what I have felt running through me was of Truth from within me.
Thank you so much My Brother...and I will come on 10/20...I will
cross the "Rainbow Bridge Over to You" This is what you call Divine
Order...On 1/11/12 I had written down these words "Thy Holy
Ordinance" but I didn't understand...now I do...I am eternally
grateful for the clarity of the sacred messages that you have
bestowed upon me, and I will Honor that which has Graced My Life for
which you have brought me...
Love and Light to you My Brother Yonv and that which surrounds you
on the Great Manataka...
I am honored (sacred) galvkawetiyu (galvkwitaga)
Lighting (atsvsdvsgv) fire (sacred) Atsila Galvkawetiyu from =
nidvlenvda within = hawi(ni)ditlv peace = toe he
Yes...donadagohvi--Until we meet again by the fire at the Great
When I had the vision in 1985 of Chief White Eagle from the Ponca
Tribe in Oklahoma and called them and told them of my experience,
they put one of the Chief's on the phone to speak with me. I also
professed my anger by the past in what the "White Eye" did in
breaking treaties and had no respect or honor for human life or
their people, and that I did not know what they had done...he
replied, "You are like a "Creek Running Over" but do not be angry,
take the positive message in what Chief White Eagle gave you and
spread his word throughout the land, do not reflect back on the
past, move forward...so...we will call Little Sister Linda..."Creek
Running Over"...She never stops talking!!!! ~Little Sister Linda
"Creek Running Over" Burkhart
I'm writing to tell you that your page with information on poisonous
plants was such a help to my classes! I've bookmarked it as well. I
manage the gardening club at my school and I thought it was
important to give a mini lesson on plants poisonous to people and
animals... can't tell you how many people are unaware of this.
Anyway, as my way of saying thank you, I thought I'd share another
resource one of my students found that you may want to add to your
page. It's called, "Flower Resources" -
http://www.flowerdelivery.net/ ). It's a flower and plant
related page with lots of educational articles, it has a really nice
one on poisonous plants you may like. I thought your users might
find it valuable. Hope I could help and take care. P.S. If you
decide to add it, please let me know. I've given the student who
discovered it an "Expert Gardener" award for such a great find and
I'd love to show him and the club if the page were added to your
website because it'd probably make his day :) Sincerely,
~Mrs. Anne Hughes, Monument Charter School
story…But NOT THE TRUTH. May I suggest that is not
real…I am only 1/16th indian with short hair and I
would be happy to challenge any long hair you have
or can find to tracking. You pick the long hair and
I will pick the place. Most Indians have lost their
way and want to be something else. Hair has very
little to do with the man and the same is true for
who his father was. An "indian" can be born from
Indian parents and be white and a white man can be
Indian. Each person chooses their way and parents
have very little to do with it unless the child has
the desire to be Indian, just like hair.
We will be stronger if we talk about things that are
really true instead of believing what we hope is
true living in a fantasy world of fairy tales.
Excellent article, very interesting giving all that truly believe in
Our Creator and Mother Earth the beautiful gift of HOPE! I do have
one question please, you spoke of being "immovable from the Earth",
and of a "Time reality that will entice some to there". Can you
explain where that may be, are speaking of leaving this planet Earth
herself??!! Thank You and many Blessings. ~Gwendolyn Karan
My name is Matthew
Holycross (adopted to Filicicchia at age 10)
I am not sure of my heritage. My great grandmother was a shaman.
From what tribe I do not know. That side of my mothers family treats
the talk of it as a shame on the family. But I am sure that means
nothing. I have survived many attempts on my life by my mother and
others involved in black arts, do to the nature of my families
religious beliefs and the importance of my existing I guess.
Being raised as a "christian" I struggled with the message and the
actual reality. I gave it a try (35 years), but cannot even remotely
fathom "God"(in the christian/jewish/catholic sense) as anymore real
then a lifeless statue.
But yet I believe in God. But not "God". It makes complete sense to
me. But it confuses my emotional response to Religions as they are.
Its almost like a revulsion.
But I have been drawn with such grace to this site and some mystic
sites that have put all the fear of suffering I learned in life at
ease. As if I had originally known since before this life, that a
beautiful change was more likely then a prolonged chaos the world
seems to focus on.
For all the gore in life that has left me numb and petrified for so
many years, I actually "feel" now. I can't explain how it is to
anyone to have not ever known a peaceful, fearless day until I left
the church and all its shackles behind. But I find my self more
spiritually connected to everything in a more functional way.
Evolution and reincarnation are the exact same thing to me. The
bible teaches it. Even though its ignored by religious leaders.
Am I just one of many that have had an awakening?
I have seen spirits since I was very young. And I see aura's in
nature and in people. Sometimes even connect with them. I feel like
the times my mother tried to kill me in the crib (my sister saved
me) and through my childhood have left me in an in between state of
consciousness. The Mother spirit must have been at work to keep me
through my younger years. I have had visions and heard the "voice"
speak to me as clear as day.
Now that I am older(40). I feel as if all has been an orchestrated
system to prepare me for an event I am to lead others through. Not a
religion or organization.
But to be an agent of anti-fear and peaceful evolution. But how I
feel it is beyond me. Rightly so I guess.
As I read these articles I find a kinship that is ages older then my
ability to recall.
Is this what you run into when talking with others that say they
confirm what you are saying in their spirit?
I have given up on the church because I feel physically ill in those
places anymore for the crimes I have witnessed and fought to no
I still hunger spiritual friends. Just not Christians.
Am I wrong for rejecting what my very being seems to react so badly
to? Or is that part of the change that is coming?
I don't know why what you wrote brings up these questions. But there
they are. I am appealing to your experiences meeting with
others. I don't expect spiritual insight. But however you know you
are to reply, then it is good and I will prove it. Thank you
for your articles. Thank you for your discipline and voice. If
you don't respond for any reason, you have given me gold already.
Peace and Safety. ~Matthew Holycross
I absolutely love and agree with everything said. Thank you!
It occurred to me today that Jesus/Yeshua was, in his own way, a
Medicine man (in my own understanding of it) - as such, he is
someone I can relate to in a unique and powerful way that has
nothing to do with the church and much to do with my walk. When I
realized that, it really blew my mind :) So much for church
teachings .... this is a whole different level for me. It was a
pretty cool moment, too. I thought - hey, this guy is a brother!
I still don't think I will ever relate to Jesus/Yeshua as "God" or
savior - I just don't think it's possible for me to do that. It
makes no sense to me. But as a Medicine man, as a teacher, as a
messenger, as a Star child - yes. I stumbled on something in a
search .... I thought David Three Dogs might like to see it, he has
written such wonderful articles ...... his well-researched work is
~ Kim Summermoon
Thank you for this article, it was wonderful and hopeful to read! I
have long believed that there is a connection to evolution and
creation, this article confirms it. It is worded with clear
understanding. The pieces come together in what is and what is to
be. Staying on the right path is very hard for those who are lured
to earthly behavior. Being reminded is always helpful to those of us
who stray easily. We live too much in the moment, the now, and all
about me. We need to practice paying attention to the big picture,
the purpose, and others.
The part about "Time as Direction" is new to me, but it makes sense.
We are a very time-oriented society, which I feel limits us and
condenses our thinking abilities. Our awareness of the world around
becomes dull. When we are dull or apathetic, we are easier to
manipulate. Do you have a suggestion for where we can find
information on how to re-think/re-direct our understanding of this
"Time as Direction" process? Thank You again. ~Roberta
Can't Play My Drum!
Greetings my Relations:
I have thought long about this article, and have this to say: I find
it very disturbing. It hurts my heart to read these bitter, angry
words. In this time of upheaval and destruction, we should be
pulling together, not pulling apart. "This is only for men, this is
not for women" - how did this happen?
Slavery was once traditional in this country. Foot-binding was once
traditional in China. Female genital mutilation is still traditional
in some countries. Because a practice has a history among a people
does not make it right. We Two Leggeds have gone through many up-liftings,
when we've seen how we've lost the path and corrected our errors.
Our progress has been toward inclusion, toward acceptance, toward
unity with all beings - and that includes women. To revert to old,
destructive, separatist ways is to lose the path once again.
Women hold up half the sky. When did we lose sight of the unity of
the people and start arguing about who can and who can't? This is
not the Beauty Way. This does not help the children grow up straight
and strong. This does not heal any wounded hearts.
I have spoken.
The Feathered Serpent Lodge